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Re: Alex on CM: "The Big Wheel" - SPOILER thread

Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 4:47 am
by eris
MoonMad wrote:There are comments here as well. 26 when I went there. All positive, although many thought the little boy overshadowed Alex. Most were very impressed by Alex, the little boy and Simon's writing. Very good response I think.

http://criminalmindsfanatic.blogspot.com/

LoL, the first chair in that blogpic is for someone named "st. john" :snicker:

Re: Alex on CM: "The Big Wheel" - SPOILER thread

Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 4:49 am
by one.zebra
Eh, really not caring what 'other people' think..and those people who trash everything?...I know a nice guy, dark glasses, kinda quiet...

Re: Alex on CM: "The Big Wheel" - SPOILER thread

Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 5:28 am
by MoonMarg
MoonMad wrote:Okay, I'm tearing up just reading the comments. Thanks ladies, from someone who won't get to see this for a while. I can't wait! :woohoo:
Mandy - its another 4 freakin weeks until it airs here in Oz. And between you and me - I'm dieing to see those long johns!!!

Re: Alex on CM: "The Big Wheel" - SPOILER thread

Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 6:30 am
by willing freshie
I haven't had a chance to read everyone's stuff yet. His acting ability is beyond words. I was crying like a baby---I so wanted him not to die. When Vincent saw basically himself in the blind boy's eyes, it brought out the real Vincent that would have been if he hadn't suffered the loss and viewing of his own mom's murder.Inside he was a gentle man and was capable of love---he loved that boy! :hankie: :hankie: :hankie: :hankie: :hankie:

Re: Alex on CM: "The Big Wheel" - SPOILER thread

Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 7:52 am
by redwinter101
Just watched - I thought the episode was marvellous - totally captivating. Alex was great, the boy was great. Very happy to see Alex again. So very happy. (And I agree about the bread. Ewwwwwwwww.)

Now can y'all help me out? The version I saw (and every other version I could find) chopped off the end :eek2: . What happened after Stan asked Derek, "Did he kill my mom?" Your help will be much, much appreciated.

Red

Re: Alex on CM: "The Big Wheel" - SPOILER thread

Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 7:55 am
by coco
redwinter101 wrote:Just watched - I thought the episode was marvellous - totally captivating. Alex was great, the boy was great. Very happy to see Alex again. So very happy. (And I agree about the bread. Ewwwwwwwww.)

Now can y'all help me out? The version I saw (and every other version I could find) chopped off the end :eek2: . What happened after Stan asked Derek, "Did he kill my mom?" Your help will be much, much appreciated.

Red
Red I had to ask the same question this morning and here is what I was told:
That's just about it, the FBI guy didn't answer, although it was clear what the answer was, he just gave the kid a sweet, sad look (I think touched his shoulder) and walked away. The boy cried a little more and his adoptive mom held him, then it ended with a shot of Vincent in the Ferris Wheel seat.
:thanks: mwj for helping me out this morning in my panic. :snicker:

Re: Alex on CM: "The Big Wheel" - SPOILER thread

Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 7:58 am
by redwinter101
Thanks, coco and mwj. :rose:

Red

Re: Alex on CM: "The Big Wheel" - SPOILER thread

Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 8:02 am
by Jade
I didn't love the episode, not really a fan of that show, but Alex and the kid were really good, i actually really enjoyed seeing Alex in a role like that and he did a wonderfull job.
also the thing he did with the bread was :puke:

Re: Alex on CM: "The Big Wheel" - SPOILER thread

Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 8:02 am
by fairytoes
Okay, stupid question, but hey, it's me!!!! Apart from the site, "watchchriminalminds.net" is there another site I can watch it?
Your help would be very much appreciated! (and yes I am begging!)

Re: Alex on CM: "The Big Wheel" - SPOILER thread

Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 8:04 am
by redwinter101
fairytoes, I'll PM you.

Red

Re: Alex on CM: "The Big Wheel" - SPOILER thread

Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 8:15 am
by Kelly
Okay, well, I'll 5 1/2 hours late, but that episode was...

UN-FRICKIN-BELIEVABLE!!!! :yahoo: :yahoo: :yahoo: :yahoo: :yahoo:

Alex was phenomenal!!! As I knew he would be....GOD!!!! I CAN'T EVEN THINK RIGHT NOW! Seriously, that was some of the best acting I've seen. Absolutely top-notch! YEAH, ALEX!!!

Also, and this might come out a little strange, since it's 2:30 in the morning, but I definitely think that there was more significance to "the big wheel" than just the ferris wheel. But it's definitely symbolic of OCD...the repetitiveness of his life and all that.

Also, and this is probably not the best time to admit this, I have OCD, so a lot about this episode hit me pretty hard. I can really sympathize (okay, not entirely :snicker: ) with Vincent. What really got to me was the double shutting doors. There was just something about it that brought tears to my eyes. It was so realistic and entirely relatable to me. While I have gotten a bit better, every time I would lock a door when I was younger I would lock it, test it, count to three out loud...and repeat three times. If you don't personally suffer from OCD, it's probably difficult to understand why someone with OCD can't just stop. I wish it were that easy. Unfortunately, OCD is often mistaken as just ultra-superstition. I admit, that, at least to me, it's similar in many ways. That's how all quirks start. You know...not rewearing anything you wear to a funeral, or even thinking the name of a disease, because you believe that by thinking it, you will cause yourself or someone you love to get that disease. I used to do this all the time...if I would hear or think of a disease, I would whisper to myself "I will not get sick, mom will not get sick, dad will not get sick...etc." There were times that it would take me 10 minutes to recite the names of everyone I loved, including pets and, when I was really young, stuffed animals (okay, go ahead and laugh at that one...I do :snicker: ) In time, the superstition morphs into something much stronger. It's as if your brain gets caught in a loop (hence, my interpretation of "The Big Wheel"). Like Vincent, you want to break that loop, but you can't, because your brain has been virtually rewired by your superstitions. It takes a long time and much effort to be able to function normally, at least for the more extreme cases. For me, personally, being OCD has made going about normal, everyday things very difficult and timeconsuming. Certain things that most people do automatically, it takes a great deal of extra effort to do. For instance, it can take me forever to type a paper up, because if I make a typo, I can't just go back and fix the mistake. I have to erase everything back to the error, fix it, and then retype everything. Fortunately, however, through lots of effort, I have gotten myself to the point that I have been able to break many of my previous rituals, and I can live almost entirely normally. Sure, I'll always have quirks, but they no longer rule my life...just certain parts of it.

Anyway, this is why Alex's portrayal of Vincent touched me...and I apologize for the lesson in OCD :snicker: , especially since you all probably know all that already. I honestly didn't mean to go on that long.

His acting was spot-on in this role, take it from me...however, I doubt any of you would disagree.

Anyway, thanks for letting me ramble on...although you didn't really have a choice. It's ridiculous how far :offtopic: my post got. LOL

hugs,

Kel~

P.S. I'll be back to partake in more Squeeing in the morning...but now it's 3:15 and I'm ready to drop.

Re: Alex on CM: "The Big Wheel" - SPOILER thread

Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 8:25 am
by allegrita
Kelly, that's really fascinating. Thank you for sharing your experience with us. It really does put Vincent's problems into a more understandable focus. Alex did a great job of showing how trapped Vincent was in his rituals. The only time he was anything like normal (and he wasn't NORMAL) was when he was with Stan.

Re: Alex on CM: "The Big Wheel" - SPOILER thread

Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 8:31 am
by mwj01
Red, I slightly tweaked my answer to Coco...couldn’t sleep so I watched it again!

The last shot of Vincent dead in the ferris wheel seat was just after FBI guy pried Stanley’s hand from Vincent’s and carried him away. The very last shot in the show, after the exchange between Stanley and FBI guy (btw, he touched Stanley’s face and shoulder before he walked away) was an aerial view of them there in the park and a voiceover quoting something about love and hope. Maybe someone can add to that (voiceover), but I didn’t want to replay it louder and wake the others since it’s now after 2:30a.m. here. :yawn:

Re: Alex on CM: "The Big Wheel" - SPOILER thread

Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 8:34 am
by redwinter101
Super. Thank you so much, sweetie. A Thursday morning, CM-squeeing, Alex-loving hug for you. :hug:

Red

Re: Alex on CM: "The Big Wheel" - SPOILER thread

Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 8:37 am
by Kelly
allegrita wrote:Kelly, that's really fascinating. Thank you for sharing your experience with us. It really does put Vincent's problems into a more understandable focus. Alex did a great job of showing how trapped Vincent was in his rituals. The only time he was anything like normal (and he wasn't NORMAL) was when he was with Stan.
Well, thanks for listening to my rambling, Alle. :hug: