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PNWgal wrote:But...Josef doesn't want to lose Mick. He makes the only choice he can, and not because Beth wants Mick to live.
Josef wants it, too.

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PNWgal wrote:You got me with this one, babe. Totally.![]()
PNWgal wrote:But...Josef doesn't want to lose Mick. He makes the only choice he can, and not because Beth wants Mick to live.
Josef wants it, too.
I loved Josef's anger in this story, and his sense of responsibility. (Who does he call first? The Cleaner, of course. Damage control is so much more than personal.) And you've so beautifully captured Josef's feelings about Beth: his anger and blame, his dismissal of her feelings for Mick as shallow hero-worship. Even though Josef knew well that Mick loved Beth, he had no reason to believe that Beth was worthy of that love. Not until his vamp senses told him what he needed to know."You don't know what you're asking."
"Yes, I do. And if he hates me for forever, at least he'll be alive."
"There are worse things than death."
"You don't really believe that."
A sad shake of his head, "No. But Mick does."
For Josef to take Mick's humanity away without his expressly stated permission... that is huge. HUGE.That’s what Mick felt as the first bullet shattered his breastbone – he'd never felt more alive.
Yes, absolutely.allegrita wrote:For Josef to take Mick's humanity away without his expressly stated permission... that is huge. HUGE.
To me, though, hard as it is, there really is only one decision. Because Beth's right: Josef really doesn't believe that there are worse things than death. Life means possibility. And I think Josef needs Mick in the world.
He did experience that - everything in this story happened precisely as we saw in FtP, including Mick getting injured, patched up by Guillermo (and getting Anders' address in the process), collecting his weapons (jen wrote:Mick here did not have the chance to experience Guillermo pulling glass out of his leg as he fumes about 'getting his ass kicked' and that was a huge learning experience for him.
That's a wonderfully perfect description of all three characters' dilemma.jen wrote:Will he forgive them for loving him so much they would do anything to keep him, even if it means losing his love for them in return or does he love them enough to forgive them even that?
That is a hell of an 'if only' and you introduce the premise here with such a masterful economy of phrasing. It's simple, but it's important.redwinter101 wrote:If only he'd had the sense to answer that first call. If only.
Your Josef, he rocks. Hard. Bringing the bad-assery all over again.redwinter101 wrote:Josef looked to Guillermo, his voice low and soft and dark, “Get him out of here,” he growled, gesturing to Talbot. “Get him to a hospital. Dump him in the parking lot if you have to. And don’t come back.”
This is far and away my favourite part - I want to roll it in my mouth and turn it over and over. It is poetry in motion- a ripple of rhythm and almost-rhyme, it's beautiful, just beautiful.redwinter101 wrote:Electric hum and traffic noise faded into the background and all that was left was Mick. He felt the flutter, the moment of surrender and pulled back, pushing away thoughts of souls and sins and reckoning as he bit into his own wrist. Deep; to the bone. A drip to Mick’s lips, to heal and kill.
Good goddamn this has all the power of that original line and then some. Am absolutely salivating over another chapter now!redwinter101 wrote:“Forgive me, brother.”
That’s what Mick felt as the first bullet shattered his breastbone – he'd never felt more alive. A sob rose in Josef’s throat and he forced himself to swallow. Concentrating, he closed his eyes, blocking out every sound except the rhythms of Mick’s fading body. Electric hum and traffic noise faded into the background and all that was left was Mick. He felt the flutter, the moment of surrender and pulled back, pushing away thoughts of souls and sins and reckoning as he bit into his own wrist. Deep; to the bone. A drip to Mick’s lips, to heal and kill.
“Come on, Mick. Rise and shine."
He could have stood to one side, watched him die the death he desired. Interfering with the universe’s plans was becoming a nasty habit. He leaned forward, stroking his fingers through Mick’s hair as he offered a silent prayer to the ancient gods of his ancestors and to the only man he’d ever called friend and meant it.
Non sequiter and all, but just to point out, this was also Coraline's perspective on things...allegrita wrote:
To me, though, hard as it is, there really is only one decision. Because Beth's right: Josef really doesn't believe that there are worse things than death. Life means possibility. And I think Josef needs Mick in the world.
Oh that's genius. Mick certainly does inspire. In so many ways.wpgrace wrote:Non sequiter and all, but just to point out, this was also Coraline's perspective on things...allegrita wrote:
To me, though, hard as it is, there really is only one decision. Because Beth's right: Josef really doesn't believe that there are worse things than death. Life means possibility. And I think Josef needs Mick in the world.![]()
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And yet there are so many other factors here -- Josef's realization of how strong Beth's love for Mick really is (and what that means for Mick), Josef’s own desire to keep Mick with him, Beth pointing out that Mick's humanity is only temporary anyway, and thus not quite real. I didn't know what Josef would decide until the end, and still don't know exactly what made him decide to turn Mick back . . . and that's wonderful."There are worse things than death."
"You don't really believe that."
A sad shake of his head, "No. But Mick does."
After so many centuries, it's hardly surprising Josef doesn't remember what it feels like to be alive - I think this will have been pretty shocking for him.Shadow wrote:When Josef feels what Mick felt as a human, when he feels that life, in Mick's last moment of awareness, you can just feel it searing across Josef's soul. I don't think Josef will ever think quite the same way about the human condition, now that he has felt this.
Oh, how amazing.Shadow wrote:In so many ways I love this even better than our original, beloved turning scene. I never liked the idea of Mick having to turn back to save Beth's life, and was amazed that the show managed to pull it off so beautifully. I can only imagine what they might have been able to do with something like this - something so much more subtle, with so many more ramifications. This will affect Josef's and Mick's relationship so much more than what happened in the series did. And what will Mick's reaction be? Waking up as a vampire again after once again being turned without his consent . . . wow. It's bound to be a lot different from what he felt after making the decision himself.