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Re: Alex on CM: "The Big Wheel" - SPOILER thread

Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 9:40 am
by redwinter101
With apologies for the quality of the cap, this one's for coco:

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Re: Alex on CM: "The Big Wheel" - SPOILER thread

Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 9:58 am
by Overdamoon
ITA with everyone. Alex was simply magnificent as Vincent!

Of all the posts here, I'm gonna comment on this one. :snicker:
MickLifeCrisis wrote:
The bread and the saran wrap... euww.
I think it's Simon's way of giving us a lil' peek into Alex's taut bod and McBulge? :pinklol: It'd be nice if Vincent went around shirtless after he woke up and tidied up his bed and clothes but no luck.

Re: Alex on CM: "The Big Wheel" - SPOILER thread

Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 10:03 am
by Overdamoon
VAsusieQ18 wrote:Several of the press articles I read today (local newspapers advertising the episode) all were quoted as saying that Alex's performance was "Emmy award winning". Only time will tell, but he sure has my vote for best guest starring role.

So, does anyone know why Vincent was mimicing the little boy with the teeth clicking thing? I know the little boy did it for spacial recognition, but why Vincent? Was it further evidence of the bond he had with the boy? Perhaps a reminder of him when he was young and that he had just put the little boy in the same position he found himself many years before?

A shrink could analyze this episode for days! :giggle:
My hubby speculated that when Vincent was nervous or under stress, he did the teeth clicking to remind himself of Stan and it became a habit. Stan became sort of Vincent's connection to other people, he opened up Vincent's eyes.

"Because you helped me see." :hankie:

Re: Alex on CM: "The Big Wheel" - SPOILER thread

Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 10:11 am
by Overdamoon
Kelly wrote:Okay, well, I'll 5 1/2 hours late, but that episode was...

UN-FRICKIN-BELIEVABLE!!!! :yahoo: :yahoo: :yahoo: :yahoo: :yahoo:

Alex was phenomenal!!! As I knew he would be....GOD!!!! I CAN'T EVEN THINK RIGHT NOW! Seriously, that was some of the best acting I've seen. Absolutely top-notch! YEAH, ALEX!!!

Also, and this might come out a little strange, since it's 2:30 in the morning, but I definitely think that there was more significance to "the big wheel" than just the ferris wheel. But it's definitely symbolic of OCD...the repetitiveness of his life and all that.

Also, and this is probably not the best time to admit this, I have OCD, so a lot about this episode hit me pretty hard. I can really sympathize (okay, not entirely :snicker: ) with Vincent. What really got to me was the double shutting doors. There was just something about it that brought tears to my eyes. It was so realistic and entirely relatable to me. While I have gotten a bit better, every time I would lock a door when I was younger I would lock it, test it, count to three out loud...and repeat three times. If you don't personally suffer from OCD, it's probably difficult to understand why someone with OCD can't just stop. I wish it were that easy. Unfortunately, OCD is often mistaken as just ultra-superstition. I admit, that, at least to me, it's similar in many ways. That's how all quirks start. You know...not rewearing anything you wear to a funeral, or even thinking the name of a disease, because you believe that by thinking it, you will cause yourself or someone you love to get that disease. I used to do this all the time...if I would hear or think of a disease, I would whisper to myself "I will not get sick, mom will not get sick, dad will not get sick...etc." There were times that it would take me 10 minutes to recite the names of everyone I loved, including pets and, when I was really young, stuffed animals (okay, go ahead and laugh at that one...I do :snicker: ) In time, the superstition morphs into something much stronger. It's as if your brain gets caught in a loop (hence, my interpretation of "The Big Wheel"). Like Vincent, you want to break that loop, but you can't, because your brain has been virtually rewired by your superstitions. It takes a long time and much effort to be able to function normally, at least for the more extreme cases. For me, personally, being OCD has made going about normal, everyday things very difficult and timeconsuming. Certain things that most people do automatically, it takes a great deal of extra effort to do. For instance, it can take me forever to type a paper up, because if I make a typo, I can't just go back and fix the mistake. I have to erase everything back to the error, fix it, and then retype everything. Fortunately, however, through lots of effort, I have gotten myself to the point that I have been able to break many of my previous rituals, and I can live almost entirely normally. Sure, I'll always have quirks, but they no longer rule my life...just certain parts of it.

Anyway, this is why Alex's portrayal of Vincent touched me...and I apologize for the lesson in OCD :snicker: , especially since you all probably know all that already. I honestly didn't mean to go on that long.

His acting was spot-on in this role, take it from me...however, I doubt any of you would disagree.

Anyway, thanks for letting me ramble on...although you didn't really have a choice. It's ridiculous how far :offtopic: my post got. LOL

hugs,

Kel~

P.S. I'll be back to partake in more Squeeing in the morning...but now it's 3:15 and I'm ready to drop.
Great post, Kelly... it's only 2:10 AM here. :yawn: Hope you have your condition under control. :rose:

This is the first time I've heard about someone with OCD who has a tendency to do the double door shutting thing. I thought it was overacting. But I've known people who tend to double-check on door locks. I'd lock up and get out of the car or house but the other person would go around and check on the door knobs afterward. It would drive me insane like they don't trust me to lock it up myself!! :witsend: Is that OCD or paranoia?

Re: Alex on CM: "The Big Wheel" - SPOILER thread

Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 10:11 am
by coco
redwinter101 wrote:With apologies for the quality of the cap, this one's for coco:

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:ninja: It's a slow morning in work so I'm celebrating by posting. ;) :ninja:

Red that pic just makes me :melts:

I didn't get a chance this morning to say how much I enjoyed the ep. Alex was fabulous as was the little boy and it was so nice to see him back on screen again in something. I don' know anything about CM so don't know if that was a usual ep or not but I was engrossed from start to finish.

Loved Vincent so much and squeed more than once at various times with the glasses, no glasses, sleepwear choices :snicker: etc.

I agree with everyone else though - the bread and wrap :puke: :blecch: :lol:

:ninja: back to work I go :ninja:

:wave:

Re: Alex on CM: "The Big Wheel" - SPOILER thread

Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 11:52 am
by wpgrace
Hmmmm... the bread and saran wrap just made me want to cry for him... He was so out of his element getting shot like that, and had no way to express his shock and pain... He REALLY held in any outward display of the enormous, in fact fatal, pain he was feeling, because he wasn't gonna miss his date with that child. So I find it an oddly moving gesture... usually working that sandwich was a ritual, a stress relief, for him. This time it was too, but the bread-of-life served a different purpose.

Once you saw the end, so much of what had been creepy about Vincent becomes poignant. I haven't watched it the second time, yet, but will later today. (We had a crisis, fortunately not until 10 pm last night, of needing to have hippies explained in prep for a history test...) but I expect I will cry more when I see it today... as I now know how it ended and what he sacrificed for the boy...

Sigh. Somehow watching Alex always makes me sigh...

And yes, he can't hide how darn good-looking he is, but there was nothing sexual about poor Vincent...

Re: Alex on CM: "The Big Wheel" - SPOILER thread

Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 12:22 pm
by Raven
Well, Alex did what Alex does best...completely disappear inside a character. I didn't watch Alex...well okay, I DID peer at his long johns in a completely "show me the money Alex" way, but all I saw in that episode was Vincent. Grace...me too...rolling the bread into makeshift bullet hole plugs and gingerly pressing them into his body...oh, man, that broke my heart. I wasn't crazy about the script...the parts with the boy and Vincent was tremendous, but Vincent's motivations and all that...lacking. Although I put it down to this is not a show about the un-sub, rather about the team tracking him down...so it's all good.
And Alex is the king of understated performance that brings the house down. I'm so proud of him!

Re: Alex on CM: "The Big Wheel" - SPOILER thread

Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 12:24 pm
by Josefismysire
Here's a link to watching this episode online!! Enjoy!!

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Re: Alex on CM: "The Big Wheel" - SPOILER thread

Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 12:42 pm
by redwinter101
JIMS, I'm taking the link down, for now, as it is not an official outlet and therefore likely to be infringing copyright. There are no other mods around at the moment but I'll get their views when they are here.

Red

ETA: This link has been permanently removed. Any links to full episodes (or part episodes on YT) that potentially infringe copyright will be removed.

Re: Alex on CM: "The Big Wheel" - SPOILER thread

Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 1:09 pm
by Jade
I had to make this Gif :biggrin:


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Re: Alex on CM: "The Big Wheel" - SPOILER thread

Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 1:16 pm
by Fleur de Lisa
Just read everyone who made comments while I was asleep last night, and loved the commentary, explanations and general squeeing!

A few things worth mentioning: Kelly--- :hug: for sharing your experience with OCD. I think that more people suffer from that than we know. I loved the connection you made between the ferris wheel and the ongoing cycle of OCD. Poor Vincent suffered in so many ways, and it made perfect sense to me that given his experience with his mother, etc. that he would exhibit symptoms of OCD--he was such a lonely man, and having that disorder--to the extreme he had it--only isolated him more.

grace--that was what broke my heart as well: Vincent was not going to miss his outing with the little boy, gunshot wounds and all. He had no connection with anyone--except that little boy. He saw himself in that child and was given some of his humanity back through him.\

My take on the 'clacking' noise was that Vincent used that as another way to connect with Stan. He heard the boy do it and he picked up that little habit. Kinda like we all pick up little things from our family and friends. He had no family and friends--that little boy was the only connection he had that made him actually have normal emotions.

I really need to give props to the writer of that episode. It was rich with meaning, and the extraordinary way Vincent was made to be sympathetic character is a testament not only to the talent of our guy, but the writing of the role.

Re: Alex on CM: "The Big Wheel" - SPOILER thread

Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 1:19 pm
by wpgrace
Simon Mirren was the writer, I think, Fleur... who Alex now counts as a friend... good friend to have... :thumbs:

Re: Alex on CM: "The Big Wheel" - SPOILER thread

Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 1:21 pm
by redwinter101
It was Simon who Alex was working with over the winter on the project that he (unsuccessfully, we assume) pitched to CBS as part of his development deal.

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Re: Alex on CM: "The Big Wheel" - SPOILER thread

Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 1:24 pm
by Fleur de Lisa
I knew SImon was involved as a producer----keep forgetting that those that write generally get that credit.

Kudos to him and may him and Alex have the opportunity to work together again.

:wave: grace and red!

Re: Alex on CM: "The Big Wheel" - SPOILER thread

Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 1:26 pm
by wpgrace
Fleur de Lisa wrote:I knew SImon was involved as a producer----keep forgetting that those that write generally get that credit.

Kudos to him and may him and Alex have the opportunity to work together again.

:wave: grace and red!

Tho may Alex be way too busy with Carol Barbee and 3R to do too much with Simon anytime soon.... :fingerscrossed:

And :wave: backatcha...