Alex on CM: "The Big Wheel" - SPOILER thread

[Josefismysire]

JIMS, I'm taking the link down, for now, as it is not an official outlet and therefore likely to be infringing copyright. There are no other mods around at the moment but I'll get their views when they are here.

Red

ETA: This link has been permanently removed. Any links to full episodes (or part episodes on YT) that potentially infringe copyright will be removed.

Sorry Red. I'll keep looking...

[Josefismysire]

To be fair to Criminal Minds, they rarely gives us a full and complete picture/explanation as to why the UNSUB killer does what he does...I believe they want us to use our own noggins a bit and try to figure out in our own heads why we think they killed. The BAU team will give us a profile of the killer by trying to explain the killer's makeup. The show requires us to think, a novel concept in this day and age on TV.

Vincent's motive did confuse me quite a bit..if he was so traumatized by watching his mother get murdered, how does it afford him release to kill random women in the same way? And, why only once a year? He can control his urges the other 11 months? Interesting.....

[Jade]

i made caps like this one.



of the whole episode i can put them in a zip files and upload them if anyone want them ?.

[Josefismysire]

i made caps like this one.



of the whole episode i can put them in a zip files and upload them if anyone want them ?.

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[amyvil]

Marc Berman over at Ad Week has the fast overnight ratings:

Fox’s American Idol stood well above the competition at 9 p.m., with a 13.4/20 in the hour.

Second behind American Idol in the overnights was CBS’ solid Criminal Minds (8.7/13), followed by ABC’s Lost (5.3/ 8), a repeat of Law & Order: SVU on NBC (3.7/ 6), and an unnecessary repeat of 90210 on the CW (1.0/ 2).

http://pifeedback.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/ ... /761105702

Amy V.

[Jade]

Marc Berman over at Ad Week has the fast overnight ratings:

Fox’s American Idol stood well above the competition at 9 p.m., with a 13.4/20 in the hour.

Second behind American Idol in the overnights was CBS’ solid Criminal Minds (8.7/13), followed by ABC’s Lost (5.3/ 8), a repeat of Law & Order: SVU on NBC (3.7/ 6), and an unnecessary repeat of 90210 on the CW (1.0/ 2).

http://pifeedback.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/ ... /761105702

Amy V.

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Ok i'm uploading.

[wpgrace]

So is that a good showing by CM? Or not so much??

[Raven]

Anyone know if the episode did better than CM usually does?

[Jade]

what does the 2 bumbers reffer to ? (8.7/13)

[cassysj]

To be fair to Criminal Minds, they rarely gives us a full and complete picture/explanation as to why the UNSUB killer does what he does...I believe they want us to use our own noggins a bit and try to figure out in our own heads why we think they killed. The BAU team will give us a profile of the killer by trying to explain the killer's makeup. The show requires us to think, a novel concept in this day and age on TV.

Vincent's motive did confuse me quite a bit..if he was so traumatized by watching his mother get murdered, how does it afford him release to kill random women in the same way? And, why only once a year? He can control his urges the other 11 months? Interesting.....

Well IMO when he killed the women in his mind he was spending time with his mother again. Why only once a year? OCD can be like that certain things have to be done in a certain way at a certain time. It can be daily, weekly, monthly, yearly.

[Jade]

Anyone know if the episode did better than CM usually does?

I looked at the last 3 weeks they had new episodes (not rerun) and they did 13.5 - 13.8 & 13.4.

[TheGoodFight]

Anyone know if the episode did better than CM usually does?

I looked up last week and CM was CBS's second highest performing show with 8.9 rating/15 share, 13,723 million viewers.
http://tvbythenumbers.com/category/rati ... tv-ratings

[mwj01]

[quote="Jade"]i made caps like this one.



of the whole episode i can

Thanks Jade!

[Jade]

Here you go more than 400 caps.

http://tinyurl.com/coha53

[VAsusieQ18]

http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/04/30/we ... sode/17730

TVbytheNumbers is saying they will have Wednesday night's ratings up around 12:30 pm EST.

Thank you, susie. Question: in your expertise, how do you think Alex presented his character? Believable or not? I'm curious as to your take on Vincent, now that you've seen his performance..

Unfortunately, the writers seemed to have gone off profile. These types of psychopathic killers have no remorse, they can't feel empathy for their victims. They can usually fake it pretty good (ala Ted Bundy), but Vincent had empathy and caring for Stanley. That was definitely off profile. He even was "sorry" he had to kill Alice. Was he faking it? Perhaps, but to me that was real emotion, something these types of killers cannot feel for their victims (again per what I've come to understand about the makeup of these killers). So yeah, they went off profile a bit, but even the BAU Team said that it was very unusual, so there's that.

I would be interested in knowing how much Alex was able to "change" Vincent's profile. Was he able to change the writer's script a bit and humanize Vincent more? I've seen comments from those on the set that Alex was very much into the role, that he made suggestions and worked closely with the director.

I'm off from work today as I have a dental appointment. But I can't wait to get back in the office and give my friends at Quantico a call and see what they thought of the episode. They usually razz me quiet a bit for watching Criminal Minds, as most of them can't stand the show. But I talked a few of them into watching this episode just for me and for Alex.