Page 4 of 9
Re: Three Rivers and maybe I need counseling
Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 1:30 am
by darkstarrising
VampFan5 wrote:I'll say this. Watching upfronts and seeing the previews for 3R have opened up the wounds fresh for me. I've been depressed for two days and I know it's ridiculous to feel this connection to a canceled television show that only had 16 episodes but I can't help it. Moonlight brought back a part of my life I thought was dead, my writing. I had given up on writing entirely before this show inspired me. I'm a happier person these days (except for the past two days obviously) because I have a creative outlet again. I'm glad there are others out there like me that still think "what if" or feel nostalgic. The preacher last Sunday used the words "right here, right now" in his sermon and I almost lost it. I'll never be able to hear the phrase "seal the deal" again without thinking of Josef with a smile across my face. I guess what I'm trying to say is that everyone is entitled to grieve in their own way and some of us it just takes longer. We have good days and bad days. Today has just not been a good day but I'm coping along with Moonlightsonata and everyone else who loved this amazing show.
VampFan5
you are not alone.....is there anyone else out there that nearly comes to tears when they hear 'Love Remains the Same' on the radio?
Someone at work had it playing and I could feel the lower lip start to quiver.
Re: Three Rivers and maybe I need counseling
Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 1:36 am
by redwinter101
willing freshie wrote:lafluffy wrote:willing freshie wrote:
I will always love my ML eps and watch them still today on my comp. But Alex has moved on and, except for enjoying our ML here in memory and fanfic, it, IMO, is time for the grieving process to end, just as you would with any loved one you have lost.
OK. I am ready!
With all due respect. You are entitled to your opinion but you are not entitled to dictate how others feel. And I agree with Red- no one here wants to rehash or analyse the whys and wherefores of ML's demise.
With all due respect, you gave your opinion in an earlier post,saying you thought Alex was only a medium talent. "I happen to think that Alex is not a great actor. His is a medium talent, as he himself has asserted."
No one got upset over that? But I can't lay out facts and I get jumped on. Interesting.
So you can give your opinion but I can't. Nice balance here.
Do I disagree with lafluffy (and Alex!!) about Alex being a medium talent? Yes. Does that mean I am upset? Of course not. She has her view and I have mine. Neither of us has to be right or wrong.
Your post was restating the events that led to ML's cancellation. You did not get jumped on. You, and everyone else here, were asked not to turn this into a re-hash of a very, very old debate about the whys and wherefores of Moonlight's cancellation.
Red
Re: Three Rivers and maybe I need counseling
Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 1:41 am
by VampFan5
darkstarrising wrote:VampFan5 wrote:I'll say this. Watching upfronts and seeing the previews for 3R have opened up the wounds fresh for me. I've been depressed for two days and I know it's ridiculous to feel this connection to a canceled television show that only had 16 episodes but I can't help it. Moonlight brought back a part of my life I thought was dead, my writing. I had given up on writing entirely before this show inspired me. I'm a happier person these days (except for the past two days obviously) because I have a creative outlet again. I'm glad there are others out there like me that still think "what if" or feel nostalgic. The preacher last Sunday used the words "right here, right now" in his sermon and I almost lost it. I'll never be able to hear the phrase "seal the deal" again without thinking of Josef with a smile across my face. I guess what I'm trying to say is that everyone is entitled to grieve in their own way and some of us it just takes longer. We have good days and bad days. Today has just not been a good day but I'm coping along with Moonlightsonata and everyone else who loved this amazing show.
VampFan5
you are not alone.....is there anyone else out there that nearly comes to tears when they hear 'Love Remains the Same' on the radio?
Someone at work had it playing and I could feel the lower lip start to quiver.
Yes Darkstarrising. That song nearly brings me to tears. It's almost like it was written for Mick and Beth. I know I'm hopeless. Oh well they'll always be together in fanfic except when she's with Josef and even then I have to read it for the train wreck fun. Thank you DSR and every other writer on this board for keeping ML alive in our hearts.
VF5
Re: Three Rivers and maybe I need counseling
Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 1:46 am
by Moonlightsonata
I too want to thank all the writers on this board who have kept Mick and Beth and Josef and all of Moonlight alive on this board. I also feel better knowing that there are others who have felt somewhat down this week thinking of what could have been. I never meant for this thread to be a rehash of why Moonlight was canceled. I was just wondering if there were others who felt Moonlight was a once in a lifetime type event and I realize there are. Again time for me to start reading some more fanfic. Thank you again marvelous writers and members of this board and hugs to us all.
Re: Three Rivers and maybe I need counseling
Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 1:49 am
by darkstarrising
wpgrace wrote:
Tho I must say... and forgive me all you creative people for not putting this well, but recall that I am NOT a writer... But it astounds me, how many of you have a similar story... either you USED to write and quit because life got messy, or you always WANTED to write but never did because life is messy, or you never even thought about writing because life was just messy... and then this show inspired you to write and... dang! You have amazing TALENT at it!!!! How could so many of you be so frikkin talented and either you didn't know it or you weren't using it???? That truly amazes me!
I am GLAD that ML inspired you all to write... as I said above, it works out so wonderfully well for ME. But it is hard for me to look at your talent, at the beauty and complexity of your words and stories, and comprehend why you haven't always been writing...
Since we are contemplating in this thread how ML has made us feel... and how this particular week has reawakened those delightful feelings in all of us... I thought I would say, part of my delightful feelings revolve around y'all's work, but I will always be puzzled how you all can be so good at what you do, and yet have gone thru so much of your lives having NOT done it.
For that alone, ML gets extra credit, don't you think??
Grace,
You've pretty much hit the nail on the head....the magic of Moonlight is that it's
inspirational on so many levels and it resonates with a broad range women. You don't see that everyday....
The last time I wrote a creative story of any kind was in college and that was a few decades ago...I had a choice to make in college - stick with writing or go into something else. Guess what I opted to do? In hindsight, I'd have done things differently....and probably been a happier person for it. Why haven't I written anything in the interim? There was no spark, no fire to get the imagination going.
But when I started to watch Moonlight, the spark was there my muse shook off her Rip Van Winkle imitation and came to life. And I am happy about writing again. As Lucky said, as long as there are people willing to read, I'll keep writing.
Re: Three Rivers and maybe I need counseling
Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 1:54 am
by MickLifeCrisis
Moonlight will always have a special place in my heart. I watch my DVD all the time. It makes me happy to watch it. It was because of Moonlight that I:
Learned about online forums and became active in a couple of them;
Met amazing people in an online community I feel comfortable in;
Learned what fan fiction was, finally read some of it (not until the season ended), and much to my amazement was moved to try my hand at writing a little piece or two;
Lost 30 pounds;
And my hubby and I... okay, not going there.
I admit I am excited about Three Rivers. But yes, it will be different. I will forever be grateful for what ML gave me, and for what you people keep alive.
Re: Three Rivers and maybe I need counseling
Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 2:03 am
by Josefismysire
MickLifeCrisis wrote:
And my hubby and I... okay, not going there.
You, too, huh??
Re: Three Rivers and maybe I need counseling
Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 2:28 am
by MoonlitRose
Bitter Sweet comes to mind for me. I'm so happy for Alex that his new show Three Rivers had been picked up, and that so many others will now have the opportunity and privilege to witness his awesome acting on TV! Still, I'm sad that Moonlight is not on the air for a subsequent season. I can't help it. While my head knows that Moonlight is over and very unlikely to ever be resurrected, my heart seems to still go in a different direction.
Yes, I know. Three Rivers is not Moonlight. It can't be, and I know that it's not fair to compare the two.
But, I'll also bet I'm not the only one who thought of Beth and Mick and the sunrise balcony scene, after seeing the YouTube clip where Dr. Andy is talking to Dr. Miranda in TR, (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhMgG7-8w7Y)!
I plan to let my head rule when it comes to Three Rivers, and I hope that I grow to love that show for it's own merits.
My heart, though, ... My heart belongs to Moonlight!
Re: Three Rivers and maybe I need counseling
Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 2:29 am
by r1015bill
All of you have stated my feelings far better than I can.
I'm in love with Moonlight, its characters and its stories. I've been uncomfortable with how some of the other forums are focusing so much on Alex. Yes, I hope he has a fantastic career but no more than any of the other artists involved with Moonlight. Yes, I'll probably watch 3R but mostly to see if there's any Mick left.
I would love a movie, but if Veronica Mars, who had three seasons, couldn't get anything together, I have my doubts about Moonlight. There's also a time limit on how long the cast (at least the vampires) can look the same age.
I think I need to start moving on with RL. I may not post a lot, but I have been keeping up with several sites. It's become clear that I'm spending 2+ hours a day catching up on fictional characters and the actors that play them while other responsibilities and personal interests have been going by the wayside. (You should see the dust bunnies in the corners!). I'll have to figure out a way to manage time...
Re: Three Rivers and maybe I need counseling
Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 2:37 am
by Kelly
I feel pretty much how all of you feel.
While I admit that I am, overall, actor-centric, there is no show that Alex will ever be a part of in his career that will ever take ML's place. I love ML, and I always will. It might sound silly, but ML changed my life and helped me in so many ways. Also, if it weren't for ML, I'd never have met all of you.
I can tell that I'm going to really enjoy TR, partly because it looks awesome and partly because I trust Alex's judgment. However, no matter how much I like it, ML will never be replaced. I'll watch it, I'll probably love it, I'll have a blast discussing it with all of you and drooling over Alex...but it will never be the same.
However, much as I hate that ML was cancelled, there was some good that came out of it...at least for me. Before the cancellation, I never had any desire to join the forums, but the day it was cancelled, I signed up at *cough*MLL*cough* and I met all of you.
Re: Three Rivers and maybe I need counseling
Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 2:37 am
by willing freshie
MickLifeCrisis wrote:
And my hubby and I... okay, not going there.
:
Friday nights must have been the favorite for many hubbys/BFs!
Re: Three Rivers and maybe I need counseling
Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 2:59 am
by lunalux
For me, it’s never been about Alex.
It’s always been about Mick.
I believe that Alex O’Loughlin channeled something extraordinary when he played the character of Mick St. John. And frankly, I’ve not seen that same energy in his other roles. It doesn’t take an hour to see the difference. It is palpable, it is visceral – and for me, it’s immediate.
In an early interview, Alex said about MSJ, “I know this guy.” He was that guy.
I will always regret that I will never see a new episode of ML on air. And initially, what disturbed me most was that I would never know the rest of Mick's story. As it turns out, that’s been the only impetus behind my writing -- me working through that. And I'm sure that others who write fan fic would say something similar.
I’ll be honest. It’s really jarring to see the person who embodied this character as someone else. I will always support Alex, but I’m not quite sure yet whether I’m ready for Andy Yablonsky. Luckily, I have some time to figure that out.
Re: Three Rivers and maybe I need counseling
Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 3:34 am
by lafluffy
lunalux wrote:For me, it’s never been about Alex.
It’s always been about Mick.
I believe that Alex O’Loughlin channeled something extraordinary when he played the character of Mick St. John. And frankly, I’ve not seen that same energy in his other roles. It doesn’t take an hour to see the difference. It is palpable, it is visceral – and for me, it’s immediate.
In an early interview, Alex said about MSJ, “I know this guy.” He was that guy.
You "channelled" my thoughts and feelings perfectly. Thanks! I agree with you 100%. The right actor and the right character and show melded into something transcendent and sublime. He was born to play Mick. It's a rare and good thing.
Re: Three Rivers and maybe I need counseling
Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 3:41 am
by lunalux
lafluffy wrote:lunalux wrote:For me, it’s never been about Alex.
It’s always been about Mick.
I believe that Alex O’Loughlin channeled something extraordinary when he played the character of Mick St. John. And frankly, I’ve not seen that same energy in his other roles. It doesn’t take an hour to see the difference. It is palpable, it is visceral – and for me, it’s immediate.
In an early interview, Alex said about MSJ, “I know this guy.” He was that guy.
You "channelled" my thoughts and feelings perfectly. Thanks! I agree with you 100%. The right actor and the right character and show melded into something transcendent and sublime. He was born to play Mick. It's a rare and good thing.
Transcendent and sublime. Exactly. A perfect choice of words.
Re: Three Rivers and maybe I need counseling
Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 3:59 am
by lafluffy
willing freshie wrote:lafluffy wrote:willing freshie wrote:
I will always love my ML eps and watch them still today on my comp. But Alex has moved on and, except for enjoying our ML here in memory and fanfic, it, IMO, is time for the grieving process to end, just as you would with any loved one you have lost.
OK. I am ready!
With all due respect. You are entitled to your opinion but you are not entitled to dictate how others feel. And I agree with Red- no one here wants to rehash or analyse the whys and wherefores of ML's demise.
With all due respect, you gave your opinion in an earlier post,saying you thought Alex was only a medium talent. "I happen to think that Alex is not a great actor. His is a medium talent, as he himself has asserted."
No one got upset over that? But I can't lay out facts and I get jumped on. Interesting.
So you can give your opinion but I can't. Nice balance here.
Hey,
willing freshie. I just want to clarify that Alex being a medium talent is not presented as a statement of fact, but as my opinion. I can also see your reasoning regarding the demise of the show and how people should logically therefore move on, but that does not make it fact. It is a fact, however, that feelings arise in spite of seeming logic all the time for all of us. It does not mean they are wrong or invalid nor should they necessarily be changed or repressed because someone thinks they should.
My experience of ML is such that I don't care how its ending happened but about what's left behind-something beautiful, moving, timeless, and bittersweet, which still thrills and moves me. For me, it is still alive, not a thing relegated to the past and to memory. That's why I'm here.