Three Rivers - news, links, discussion - part 3

[allegrita]

Here's what I have to say to all of those people who are purporting to announce the "buzz":

*puts fingers in ears*
La la la la la la la....
I can't heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeear yoouuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu...

[MoonMad]

Do you feel the bloggers just like messing with our brains?

This has actually made me feel better because clearly no one knows WHAT they are talking about. We'll find out when we find out.

[wondergirl9847]

Eastmans is a soapier, racier version of the 3 medical shows. It's the one with Donald Sutherland as a patriarch of a medical family. He's a Hollywood heavy weight or washed-up, depending on how you look at... Jacqueline Bissett is also in it, she's the other formerly heavy weight.

What the eff, indeed. Oh yeah, Donald Sutherland and Jacqueline Bissett, they will SURELY bring in the young people for CBS.



Yeah, I realize they are both well-known and respected, but jeebus crow. They are always saying that they want young people to watch TV....THIS will not do it. LOL

Frick this.

[wpgrace]

Eastmans is a soapier, racier version of the 3 medical shows. It's the one with Donald Sutherland as a patriarch of a medical family. He's a Hollywood heavy weight or washed-up, depending on how you look at... Jacqueline Bissett is also in it, she's the other formerly heavy weight.

What the eff, indeed. Oh yeah, Donald Sutherland and Jacqueline Bissett, they will SURELY bring in the young people for CBS.



Yeah, I realize they are both well-known and respected, but jeebus crow. They are always saying that they want young people to watch TV....THIS will not do it. LOL

Frick this.

PLUS...didn't Donald Sutherland just star in this soapy show about a family? Only with Jill Clayburgh rather than J Bissett. And he was a Darling rather than an Eastman. And a financier rather than a doctor. And the show was called Dirty Sexy Money. If THAT title couldn't get a big enough audience for ABC, why do they think The Eastmans will for CBS???

[Raven]

Here's what I have to say to all of those people who are purporting to announce the "buzz":

*puts fingers in ears*
La la la la la la la....
I can't heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeear yoouuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu...

A voice of reason!
*does what alle does*

[amyvil]

Eastmans is a soapier, racier version of the 3 medical shows. It's the one with Donald Sutherland as a patriarch of a medical family. He's a Hollywood heavy weight or washed-up, depending on how you look at... Jacqueline Bissett is also in it, she's the other formerly heavy weight.

What the eff, indeed. Oh yeah, Donald Sutherland and Jacqueline Bissett, they will SURELY bring in the young people for CBS.



Yeah, I realize they are both well-known and respected, but jeebus crow. They are always saying that they want young people to watch TV....THIS will not do it. LOL

Frick this.

PLUS...didn't Donald Sutherland just star in this soapy show about a family? Only with Jill Clayburgh rather than J Bissett. And he was a Darling rather than an Eastman. And a financier rather than a doctor. And the show was called Dirty Sexy Money. If THAT title couldn't get a big enough audience for ABC, why do they think The Eastmans will for CBS???

The whole Eastmans thing doesn't make any sense to me either. It's not a medical show. It's a show about family members who happen to be doctors. So if you want a medical drama, this would not be my first choice.

So it would be down to either Miami Trauma (which is more like ER) and Three Rivers. Miami Trauma is a WB production and it would cost them more money to bring it on board than a CBS Paramount studios production. It has Alex in it (who everyone in the universe knows is a hot commodity). Katherine Moennig also has a strong fan base. Miami Trauma has one known cast member, Jeremy Northam, and most people have never heard of him so that alone wouldn't do it. TR has an edgy feel to it in the way of 24 so that would bring in the 18-49 demographic viewers CBS needs. Plus TR would work as a wonderful PR piece for CBS in that it would promote organ donation awareness and Alex is totally on board with that.

7 days and counting.

Amy V.

[MoonMad]

Eastmans is a soapier, racier version of the 3 medical shows. It's the one with Donald Sutherland as a patriarch of a medical family. He's a Hollywood heavy weight or washed-up, depending on how you look at... Jacqueline Bissett is also in it, she's the other formerly heavy weight.

What the eff, indeed. Oh yeah, Donald Sutherland and Jacqueline Bissett, they will SURELY bring in the young people for CBS.



Yeah, I realize they are both well-known and respected, but jeebus crow. They are always saying that they want young people to watch TV....THIS will not do it. LOL

Frick this.

PLUS...didn't Donald Sutherland just star in this soapy show about a family? Only with Jill Clayburgh rather than J Bissett. And he was a Darling rather than an Eastman. And a financier rather than a doctor. And the show was called Dirty Sexy Money. If THAT title couldn't get a big enough audience for ABC, why do they think The Eastmans will for CBS???

The whole Eastmans thing doesn't make any sense to me either. It's not a medical show. It's a show about family members who happen to be doctors. So if you want a medical drama, this would not be my first choice.

So it would be down to either Miami Trauma (which is more like ER) and Three Rivers. Miami Trauma is a WB production and it would cost them more money to bring it on board than a CBS Paramount studios production. It has Alex in it (who everyone in the universe knows is a hot commodity). Katherine Moennig also has a strong fan base. Miami Trauma has one known cast member, Jeremy Northam, and most people have never heard of him so that alone wouldn't do it. TR has an edgy feel to it in the way of 24 so that would bring in the 18-49 demographic viewers CBS needs. Plus TR would work as a wonderful PR piece for CBS in that it would promote organ donation awareness and Alex is totally on board with that.

7 days and counting.

Amy V.

Okay, that's it! Someone get Amy into that damned CBS boardroom stat! We'll tie them to their chairs and MAKE THEM LISTEN TO HER!!!!

Listening to these last few posts has reassured me no end. Christy's right - if CBS wants younger viewers then why air Dirty, Sexy Doctors? It didn't work before and it won't work now. TR is getting all the buzz, will be more profitable to CBS (hello, DVD sales to the rab- er, I mean devoted Alex fans ). I can't see Donald peeling off his scrubs and getting the same reaction as Alex would...they'd have rocks in their head to choose The Eastmans over TR! And Kate Moennig will bring her devoted fanbase too (what, five or six years in The L Word? She's bound to have devoted fans like Alex).

Hell, even I'm convincing me! Get all of us into that boardroom with Amy - we'll get TR picked up!

[Overdamoon]

Errr... We're not 14 million viewers. We're loud, rabid but a small fanbase. Yeah, hear us roar!

Mags brought up a good point on another board. (You can't help but trip over the SAME NAMES on all these different boards. ) She said what about the advertisers?

The networks are doing the presentations for the advertisers so they (networks) have to appear that the pilots are appealing to them. But the advertisers will get to assign the dollar tags and I guess it'll come down to the bottom line, how big of an audience the advertisers think they will get for a certain show and how much they're willing to fork over. The networks will then pick the highest number. Just my guess..

[willing freshie]

I posted this on VLF:

We all learned the hard way how we can be made to believe almost completely one way and be crushed in an instant.

And remembering how positive Alex also was, and how crushed and shocked he was when ML was canceled, I am betting he has also learned that hard lesson.

It seems to me that none of these supposedly inside sources have really heard anything at all, demonstrated by the totally polar opposite outlooks in some instances.

In fact, maybe until the advertisers put up their choices to support with $$,which is what runs the machine, even the networks themselves don't base their final decisions on their POV but that of what the advertisers want to see.
Certain products sell better when hooked onto certain shows where there will be the demographic to buy them.

In other words, the show has to appeal to the demographic the advertisers want watching. That is the biggest factor. If the advertisers think their target demo will watch medical dramas, then they will support with $$ those shows. Then I suppose it would be up to the networks to pick the best medical drama to catch the most viewers.

Am I making sense? (It is early---looks around for her cup of java)



ETA: Just read Over's post---Mags was thinking just like me!

[willing freshie]

Here we go again:

http://www.dvrplayground.com/blog/entry ... S-Edition/


Steady as she goes over at CBS, with its procedurals continuing to dominate in a crowded field (see: the season’s only bonafide out-of-the-box hit THE MENTALIST) and its Monday night comedy lineup, led by THE BIG BANG THEORY showing some serious strength against very stiff competition. CBS may not draw a lot of eyeballs in search of unconventional programming (or, under the age of 50), but when 12 of the top 20 shows (for the week ending on May 10, 2009) belong to the Tiffany network, who are we to argue with success?

What We’d Like to See:
An hour long drama that doesn’t involve some sort of weekly gruesome murder that may-or-may-not-be ripped from the headlines. But since that probably won’t happen, and if it did, would more likely then not be short-lived (see: SWINGTOWN), we’ll stick with trumpeting the comedic prowess of Julia Louis-Dreyfus and THE NEW ADVENTURES OF OLD CHRISTINE, the net’s best comedy next to HOW I MET YOUR MOTHER and the underrated GARY UNMARRIED, which gets serious points from us for offering up a television rarity: Child actors (Ryan Malgarini and Kathryn Newton) that don’t have us wishing Gary was sterile.

What Will Probably Happen:
CBS will continue their conservative, albeit winning ways by using their already established hits to launch eerily similar ones. In the comedy department, expect CBS to use their most popular show, TWO AND A HALF MEN to help launch either the highly buzzed about Jenna Elfman vehicle ACCIDENTALLY ON PURPOSE or the Jason Biggs starrer HAPPINESS ISN’T EVERYTHING.While on the drama front, fans of the aging and increasingly costly procedurals such as COLD CASE, THE UNIT and/or WITHOUT A TRACE should probably brace for one or two of them to vanish, well, without a trace in an effort to make room for Alex O’Loughlin, Juliana Margulies and/or Chris O’Donnell; All of whom have their very own produce-by-numbers CBS procedural waiting in the wings.

[Jade]

All of whom have their very own produce-by-numbers CBS procedural waiting in the wings.

what does that mean ?

[willing freshie]

All of whom have their very own produce-by-numbers CBS procedural waiting in the wings.

what does that mean ?

I was wondering the same thing? Maybe the others are WB productions and will cost more than the CBS productions, with the same number of possible viewers because of the procedural aspect? HUH??? I sound like them! LOL


They probably don't know what they mean either---it just sounded knowledgeable!

[Jade]

Yeah maybe they need a certain number of show from CBS productions.

[wpgrace]

I think "produce by numbers" means none of those shows are out of the box original type series...they are just more of the same kinda programs.

So they are kinda lashing CBS for airing the same old thing all the time, but admitting that the net is rewarded for doing it, with good ratings.

It means Alex's new show isn't very exciting or original to them, but that it therefore has a chance of getting on the new schedule.

[wondergirl9847]

It means Alex's new show isn't very exciting or original to them, but that it therefore has a chance of getting on the new schedule.

These "reporters" haven't even SEEN the frickin' show. How do they know it's not original? BTW, how is 3R a procedural? I thought that applied only to crime shows.

Anyway, Alex in ANYTHING is worth watching. I don't care what it is. We love his commercials with the kitty and those cars for Pete's sake. LOL